[Redcercana] Reflexiones de Sian y Rebecca Johnson sobre el encuentro (traducción) /Fwd: [womeninblack] thoughts about internacional communication in WiB - Rebecca Johnson & Sian

[Laura Moreno Egea]

Hola:

Adjunto la traducción de un mensaje de Sian, de Londres, sobre las notas del
pasado mini encuentro preparatorio en Bogotá.
Es un panorama un poco triste, pero real: la comunicación no está
funcionando demasiado bien, al menos la "cibernética" a nivel internacional.
Yo estoy de acuerdo con ella con la necesidad de trabajar en la comunicación
previa al encuentro y no dejarlo para entonces.
Yo podría colaborar con las traducciones.

Un abrazo fuerte,
Laura




Queridas

Gracias por estas notas, que nos ofrecen una guía muy útil para poder
planear el encuentro. Las propuestas a grandes rasgos son buenas, y la fecha
tendrá que ser la que es, pues ya la Ruta ha resevado el local.

Para mí, el mayor problema es la comunicación. Para el primer encuentro no
se hizo bien, y es muy buena idea planear una sesión sobre "Cómo fortalecer
nuestros lazos de comunicación internacionales como hecho relevante para un
movimiento internacional". Sin embargo, me gustaría proponer que se hiciera
otra reunión sobre comunicación internacional (que más o menos se incluye en
lo anterior, pero que puede perderse por el camino).

Esperar a agosto para debatir esto puede ser demasiado tarde. Si tenemos que
comunicarnos para el encuentro, planear y coordinar para que todo ocurra
como lo hemos planeado, entonces, tenemos que mejorar la comunicación. Lo
que sigue no es una crítica a "wibcomm" (Cynthia ya ha explicado en emails
anteriores que no funciona como un grupo y que se le deja casi todo el
trabajo a Lieve), sino que son algunas ideas que estaría bien tratar.

La lista internacional de correo ha empezado a debatir el encuentro sólo
después de que no se produjera en su momento. Parece que la lista se limita
a un número pequeño de mujeres, la mayoría que pertenecen a MdN desde hace
mucho tiempo, hay de vez en cuando emails o debates sobre ciertos asuntos,
sobre todo de mujeres europeas. Las únicas noticias regulares de vigilias
vienen de Serbia.

Me parece que la lista internacionla no incluye información de todas las
vigilias, ni siquiera de todos los países en los que hay vigilias. De los
emails que recibo de mujeres y vigilias en otros países en la dirección de
email de wibinfo (que es para Londres y el Reino Unido) parece que todavía
no se saben de los contactos internacionales o de otras vigilias en otros
países.

Hay un contacto en la web internacional y datos de contacto para cada país,
pero los emails de los que hablo me dicen que hay MdN en otros países que no
conocen la web internacional. Creo que encuentran nuestra dirección cuando
meten MdN en google y les sale nuestra página web antigua y nuestra
información de contacto en wibinfo.

En la web internacional no hay listas de vigilias de países en los que sé
que sí hay vigilias. Por ejemplo, no hay listado de Francia, aunque he
recibido un email de una vigilia de ese país.
La web internacional no se usa mucho, y desde luego, no se usa como medio de
comunicación entre MdN.

En estas circunstancias, no estoy segura de que podamos asegurar que
"representantes" de la mayoría de las MdN se enteren del próximo encuentro.
Tampoco de que podamos trabajar juntas de manera coordinada para asegurar
que mujeres de países concretos, que no pueden permitirse acudir, puedan
recibir dinero de grupos más ricos.

Veo en las notas, que el pequeño grupo organizador va a tratar algunos
aspectos relacionados con esto: contactar con grupos europeos y de los EEUU,
pero quizás debería hacerse algo más.
Idealmente esto debería hacerse a través de wibcomm, pero no creo que
ocurra.

Así que propongo al pequeño grupo organizador que se forme otro grupo de
comunicación, incluyendo alguna mujer de ese grupo de la reunión y al menos
una mujer de cada país donde hay vigilias.

Si se formara un grupo así, sería útil que se abriera una lista de email
temporal, específica para las comunicaciones sobre el encuentro. Sería
aparte de la lista internacional, y sólo para la comunicación sobre el
encuentro (asegurándonos de que quisieran también participar las redes en
francés, español e italiano, pues tendrían que traducir). Si se considera
útil (y sin duplicar nada) yo podría empezar esa lista, basada en los
contactos disponibles en la lista internacional y en los email que recibo en
wibinfo.


Y por último, por las fechas en las que estamos, felicidades por lo que
quiera que celebréis
Sian
xx

---------- Mensaje reenviado ----------
De: Lieve Snellings <lieve.snellings a pandora.be>
Fecha: 23 de diciembre de 2010 11:06
Asunto: [womeninblack] thoughts about internacional communication in WiB -
Rebecca Johnson & Sian
Para: women in black mailing list <womeninblack a listas.nodo50.org>


  *From:* Rebecca Johnson <rej a acronym.org.uk>
 *Sent:* Thursday, December 23, 2010 9:03 AM

 Dear Lieve,
I think it would be good to put this on the wider lists too, and then
tomorrow I'll try and do a response to Ana, Bronwyn and Sian for wider
consideration.
love, rebecca

        for <wib-london a yahoogroups.com>; Wed, 22 Dec 2010 15:27:51 +0000
(GMT)
        To: wib-london a yahoogroups.com


Dear Rebecca and Heena et al,


Many thanks for these notes, which provide us all with some very useful
guidance about how we can plan towards next years' meeting. I'm happy with
the broad outline of proposals (and if Ruta Racifica have already booked the
venue for August, then August it must be).


The main issue for me is communication; we know that communication for the
original meeting was not good, and planning for a session on "how can we
strengthen our international links and communication as locally relevant
activists in an international movement?" seems to be a good idea. However, I
would like to propose that there is also another meeting about internal
communication (which is sort of included above, but could get easily lost).

However, waiting for August to discuss this may be too late. If we need to
communicate about the encuentro and plan and coordinate well to make sure
that it all happens as planned, then communication really needs to improve.
What follows is not a criticism of "wibcomm" - Cynthia has in a previous
email explained how it does not work as a functioning group, leaving much of
the work to Lieve - but some ideas of what we might need to be addressed as
part of the planning.

The international wiblist has only started discussing the Encuentro after
the meeting that did not happen. The list appears to be limited to a
relatively small number of women, most of whom have been around wib for a
long time, some news postings  and some debates around some issues, mainly
from women in western europe. The only regular vigil input appears to be
from wib in Serbia.

It seems to me the international list does not includes all wib-vigils, or
even someone from each country in which there are vigils. From the number of
emails I receive from women and vigils in several countries on the wibinfo
email address (which is for London, and sometimes UK) it appears that some
vigils are not aware that there are contacts for wib internationally or in
each country and for vigils

There is a contact point on the international website, and contacts for some
countries and some vigils.
Again, emails to wibinfo suggest that many wibs in different countries do
not know about the international website. I think they find our address by
googling, getting to our our old site, and contact wibinfo from there.

On the international website there are no vigils listed for several
countries in which I know there are vigils. For example, there are no vigils
listed for France, but I've just received an email from an established vigil
there.
The website is not used much, and is certainly not used as a communication
tool by wibs.

Under these circumstances I'm not sure how we can ensure that
"representatives" from most wib-vigils will know about the next meeting. Nor
how can we work together in a coordinated way to ensure that women from
specific countries who cannot afford it could be funded between the
wealthier vigils.

I can see from the notes that the small organising group will take on some
aspects of this - contacting women in western Europe and the US - but maybe
a little more needs to be done.

Ideally this needs to be taken on by a more proactive wib-comm, but I can't
see that happening.
So this goes out to you as the small organising group for responses, with a
proposal that a communications group is set up - from some of the women
present at that meeting and at least one woman in each country where there
are vigils.

If such a group were set up, it might then would it be useful to set up a
temporary email list -  - specifically to communicate within a wider-WiB
about the Encuentro? This would be additional to the international list, and
just for the purposes of communicating within the wib network about the
Encuentro. (We would have to ensure that the French/Spanish/Italian lists
are happy with this too, as they would have to translate). If this is
thought useful (and not duplicating anything else) I would be happy to set
up and start such a list, based on the contacts given on the international
website, and various emails received as wibinfo.


and now for seasonal festiveness
Happy whatever you celebrate, to you all
Sian
xx


On 21/12/2010 06:59, Rebecca Johnson wrote:




*Dear WiBs,*

*here are the agreed notes from our meeting with Ruta Pacifica in Bogota,
which have been emailed to other WiB lists in English and Spanish, for
further translation.  Apologies that they are quite long, but  do please
take the time to read, especially the sections on proposals, themes and
action timeline.*

*
*

As you can see the Colombian women are very determined to make the XV
Encuentro in August positive and successful, but we need to do much more our
side to facilitate participation and give them feedback on their ideas. If
you have comments on anything in these notes, feed them back to Heena and me
on this network, and we will do our best to ensure we feed them back to
Ruta. We feel that we overcame some of those problems in our constructive
meetings with Ruta et al, but we have 8 months to go, and so we really hope
we can count on your help to ensure that they never have to feel that they
are organising in a vacuum again!


love and best wishes for a Beautiful Solstice and very happy and productive
New Year!

rebecca and heena xxxx

*
*

*Dear Women in Black and Sister-networks,*

*
*

Here are the notes and proposals from the meeting of Women in Black and Ruta
Pacifica, in Bogotá, Colombia, 26 November, 2010.  Present at the meeting:
Shima (Coordinator XV Encuentro), Marina (National Coordinator, Ruta
Pacifica), Leah, Marilynn, Kathy (USA), Heena and Rebecca (WiB UK).


After learning a lot more about the history and work of Ruta Pacifica since
its founding in 1996 and development into more than 320 groups in 9 regions
of Colombia, we discussed the XV Mujeres de Negro Encuentro, what caused the
postponement and what needs to be done to ensure a successful conference for
Women in Black in Colombia next August.


First and foremost, Ruta and the Colombian women were very clear that they
have the resources, made the commitment and definitely plan to hold the XV
Encuentro in Bogotá over the period August 15-20, 2011. Much of the
logistics work (conference venue and accommodation) has already been
committed to and reserved. As for the finances, Ruta reported that for the
November Encuentro, resources that would have covered the event had already
been arranged, and that after being informed of the postponement, some of
these resources remained committed and available for the next year, but
others were lost. For the Encuentro in August 2011, Ruta will continue
making arrangements to secure resources that will cover the costs of the
Encuentro and in addition, to cover the deficit left over from the
postponement, which amounts to $15,000.


The major problem we identified was poor communication, not just between the
XV Encuentro organisation and the International WiB movement, but among WiB
as a whole, including local vigils and the national and international
networks on several levels.  We all have to take more responsibility to
improve our communication from now on.

A second problem was that having experienced the large numbers that attended
the Valencia meeting, the organisers had expected around 200 international
participants, and this was one reason why they were so disheartened when by
mid October 2010 they had confirmations from barely 20 women from outside
Colombia: just 5 from Spain, 4 from UK, 1 from Belgium, 1 from India, 1 from
Uruguay, a handful from the US...

After discussing the various reasons why such small numbers had committed,
including the timing (especially for academics and other Europeans who seem
to regard August as the main holiday month), decentralised nature of WiB,
and the travel costs, it was decided that it might be more realistic to aim
for international participation of 80. Ruta anticipate at least 200 women
would participate from Colombia, and will also seek the participation of
feminist anti-militarist activists from elsewhere in Latin America, while
recognising that this would be more viable if other WiB international groups
were able also to help with outreach and if possible contribute some funds
to assist in covering the costs of bringing other Latin American feminists
to Bogotá.


With regard to the international participation, it was recognised that
rather than the large groups that came from some countries (mostly in
Europe) to Valencia, it was more likely that one or two 'representatives'
would be delegated to come from different WiB groups and countries, and that
these participants would then report back to their WiB sisters and networks.
Nevertheless, we felt that much more effort was needed by WiB groups to
build support, commitment and participation, including emulating the example
of WiB Leuven, who had raised funds to cover the costs of one woman to
participate from India and the travel costs for a participant from Uruguay.


If the timing is not right for some women to participate personally, perhaps
they could contribute funding towards enabling others to participate,
especially from Belgrade/ex-Yugoslavia, from Israel-Palestine, from Africa
and Asia, since hardly anyone had registered from these regions and it is
very important for our movement to continue and strengthen these political
and historical links.


We also discussed how to increase participation by Women in Black groups in
North America, and strengthen feminist and anti-militarist links and
solidarity.  It was acknowledged that though there were many WiB vigils
around  the USA and Canada, there was poor, almost nonexistent communication
between and among them.  A first step towards increasing North American
participation in the XV Encuentro was to build better communication and
links among feminists and WiB activists in North America and encourage them
to come to Bogotá, to share experiences and solidarity with Latin American
women.


*Main points for consideration and feedback*

We would like to suggest the following for consideration and feedback by
Women in Black groups and networks:

*1) Date of XV Encuentro:  August 15-20 2011.*

Ruta Pacifica have confirmed these dates after hearing from many (if not
all) WiB that they preferred August, and have now rebooked the venue and
accommodation.  On the basis of the work they have already done, and our
commitments to improve communication and feedback, the Colombian organisers
have absolutely committed that there will be no further postponement or
cancellation.


*2) The basic themes for the XV Encuentro:*

These six themes are proposals, and so open to discussion and feedback, in
the hope of reaching consensus and finalising by February 2011.  The
intention is to focus on these six core themes in plenaries and then use
them as a basis for more detailed discussions on particular aspects in
workshops, for which WiB participants and groups are invited to propose
titles, coordinators, speakers etc:


*i) Opposing the militarisation of national and international security
*Feminist analysis of current militarised security policies, including how
armed conflicts in the South are fuelled by arms industries and economic
interests of the North; learning from practical feminist actions to empower
and protect women.

*ii) Feminist perspectives on current conflicts and wars
*Looking at today's conflicts through a feminist lens: nationalism,
religious intolerance, xenophobia, terrorism and armed militias, sexism,
trans-border trafficking in arms, drugs, women and vulnerable peoples.

*iii) Transformative praxis of Women in Response to the Challenges*
Feminist alternatives in human security analysis and practical action to
empower and engage women in building our own resources and practices for
shared, collective security.

*iv)  Violence and Sexual Oppression*

Experience and resistance to oppression and violence against women,
including: rape as a war crime and in the domestic arena; sexual slavery and
trafficking in women; prostitution; hatred and violence against lesbians.


*v) Bringing the perpetrators of war crimes and crimes against women to
justice*.
Discussion of ad hoc tribunals and bringing cases to the International
Criminal Court.

*vi) Challenges for Women in Black: How do we see ourselves and how do we
respond?*  Our past, our present and our future; as Women in Black groups
develop round the world, how can we strengthen our international links and
communication as locally relevant activists in an international movement?
Discussing how to learn from our mistakes and weaknesses and develop more
effectively without losing our essential feminist, decentralised and
anti-militarist strengths.


*3.  Time-table between now and August 2011*


*By December 20:* Send agreed notes from the November 26 meeting out to the
WiB international networks in Spanish and English, to be translated into
other languages as needed and circulated as widely as possible.  Request
feedback by 30 January, 2011.


*February 2011:* Ruta Pacifica and XV Encuentro Organisers to send out draft
proposal, with themes, ideas, methodology and suggestions.  Other WiB groups
and participants will be asked to suggest names for speakers, topics and
coordinators for specific workshops and so on.  On the basis of this draft,
it is hoped that WiB groups will mobilise support, raise funds, register and
commit to participate.


*May 15, 2011:* Finalise materials, including workshop titles if possible
(though it is always anticipated that some additional ad hoc workshops may
be organised during the Encuentro, if wanted).

*June 15 2011:  Registration Deadline
*All participants should register by June 15, to give the organisers time to
do the final preparations and payments, and to give participants the best
opportunities to benefit from less expensive air fares.

*August 15-20, 2011:  XV Encuentro!*

*Tasks of the Group that met in Bogota*

In addition to the organisational commitments of Ruta Pacifica, which fall
mainly on the shoulders of Marina and Shima, the participants in the
November 26 meeting agreed to do our best to support in the following ways:
Rebecca and Heena, to help facilitate better communication among the
European WiB groups, ensuring close contact with the English language
network facilitated by Lieve, who works closely with Yolanda, Edith and
others on communcations in other languages.
Marilynn and Kathy agreed to take the lead in trying to engage North
American WiB and other feminist activists and encourage them to participate
in August.

Leah volunteered to help with the translations between English and Spanish
for the XV Encuentro, working closely with Marina, Shima, Rebecca, Heena,
Kathy and Marilynn on content and nuance.





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