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    <font size="+1">Me olvidaba. Sobre las emisiones de CO2 del ciclo
      nuclear. Estudio de Sovacool en castellano : <a
href="http://www.tanquemlesnuclears.org/materials/Sovacoolnuclearcast.pdf"><b>http://www.tanquemlesnuclears.org/materials/Sovacoolnuclearcast.pdf</b></a><br>
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      y también un análisis sobre Ascó. <b><a
          href="http://www.tanquemlesnuclears.org/materials/nuclearsico2.pdf">http://www.tanquemlesnuclears.org/materials/nuclearsico2.pdf</a></b><br>
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      Saludos y buen descanso.<br>
      <br>
      Miguel Muñiz<br>
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    El 23/05/11 22:57, Miguel escribió:
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      <font size="+1">Sobre el tema Nucleares. Informaciones:<br>
        <br>
        Sobre lo que ha pasado en Fukushima, implicaciones para la
        salud, el medio ambiente e implicaciones para las nucleares de
        Catalunya (también el medio ambiente y la salud). Presentación
        desde Tanquem les Nuclears en català.<br>
        <br>
        En LINUX (openoffice): <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.tanquemlesnuclears.org/materials/presentaciofukushimacat.odp"><b>http://www.tanquemlesnuclears.org/materials/presentaciofukushimacat.odp</b></a><br>
        <br>
        En Windows (office): <b><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.tanquemlesnuclears.org/materials/presentaciofukushimacat.ppt">http://www.tanquemlesnuclears.org/materials/presentaciofukushimacat.ppt</a></b><br>
        <br>
        Fukushima ha desconcertado a todos los bienpensantes que tenian
        ya el escenario del cierre programado y el discurso hecho a la
        medida de los intereses de las empresas eléctricas: ni CC.OO.,
        ni la USCOB, ni la UGT, apoyan la manifestación por el cierre de
        las centrales nucleares del domingo 5 de junio en Barcelona.<br>
        <br>
        Sobre lo que supuso Chernóbil, lo que sigue suponiendo y las
        implicaciones.<a moz-do-not-send="true"
          href="http://www.tanquemlesnuclears.org/nucinternacional/txernobil.htm"><b>
http://www.tanquemlesnuclears.org/nucinternacional/txernobil.htm</b></a> 
        también hay un power point breve en castellano <br>
        <a moz-do-not-send="true"
          href="http://www.ecologistesenaccio.cat/temes/nuclear/tln/Chernobil.ppt"><b>http://www.ecologistesenaccio.cat/temes/nuclear/tln/Chernobil.ppt</b></a> 
        y en català <a moz-do-not-send="true"
          href="http://www.ecologistesenaccio.cat/temes/nuclear/tln/Txernobil.ppt"><b>http://www.ecologistesenaccio.cat/temes/nuclear/tln/Txernobil.ppt</b></a><br>
        <br>
        Sobre las vinculaciones entre la industria nuclear civil y el
        complejo militar:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
          href="http://www.tanquemlesnuclears.org/nucmilitar/nucmili.htm"><b>
            http://www.tanquemlesnuclears.org/nucmilitar/nucmili.htm</b></a><br>
        <br>
        En general, si miráis la página web de Tanquem les Nuclears -
        Nova Cultura de l'Energia ( <b><a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="http://www.tanquemlesnuclears.org/">http://www.tanquemlesnuclears.org/</a></b>
        ) hay material de sobras sobre la problemática de la energía, el
        ahorro, la eficiencia, las renovables, la crisis del suministro,
        etc.  Cambiar el mundo es un trabajo duro y hay bastante cosa
        avanzada, no hace falta empezar siempre desde cero. Se pierde
        mucho tiempo que el capitalismo aprovecha para hacer naufragar
        las alternativas.<br>
        <br>
        Lo que me ha resultado más divertido es que haya gente en la
        acampada que diga que las nucleares son seguras a menos de dos
        meses de una catástrofe que está contaminando radiactivamente
        media Asia y, via alimentos, a gran parte del planeta. O no
        quieren enterarse, o cobran del "lobby nuclear"...<br>
        <br>
        En fin. Suerte, y espero que nos veamos en la manifestación.<br>
        <br>
        Miguel Muñiz<br>
        <br>
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        cite="mid:BANLkTinWMiwO8zvf_xQomvweLdDsHZkQgA@mail.gmail.com"
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            padding-left: 1ex;">Marta<br>
            <br>
            <div class="gmail_quote">2011/5/23 Jaume Grau <span
                dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:jgraulopez@yahoo.es" target="_blank">jgraulopez@yahoo.es</a>&gt;</span><br>
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                    <div><span>Buenos días,</span></div>
                    <div><br>
                      <span></span></div>
                    <div>A mi también me sorprende, pero tampoco tenemos
                      que extrañarnos en exceso: hay una parte de la
                      sociedad que cree que las nucleares son la
                      solución al cambio climático. La presión del lobby
                      pronuclear, con apoyo de los medios de
                      comunicación (y personajes tan contradictorios
                      como J. Lovelock), ha empujado en este sentido.</div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>Sobre el tema seguridad, creo que basta
                      recordar todo lo que ha pasado en Fukishima (y
                      anteriormente en Three Mile Island y Chernóbil),
                      además de los continuos incidentes en las
                      nucleares catalans, por ejemplo. Pero todo esto
                      son palabras, y es más emocional que otra cosa
                      (sensación de seguridad, sensación de
                      inseguridad).</div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>En cambio, sobre la posibilidad de una sociedad
                      sin nucleares, os adjunto un estudio-propuesta
                      hecho por Ecologistas en Acción que hemos
                      presentado hace muy poco a nivel del Estado, y que
                      próximamente presentaremos en Catalunya traducido.</div>
                    <div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="http://www.ecologistasenaccion.org/IMG/pdf/mix_electrico_2020.pdf"
                        target="_blank">http://www.ecologistasenaccion.org/IMG/pdf/mix_electrico_2020.pdf</a></div>
                    <div>Se trata de la propuesta de generación
                      eléctrica para 2020. Con datos en la mano, y
                      objetivos razonables pero ambiciosos, se propone
                      una transición hacia un modelo 100% renovable, en
                      el que en 2020 se hayan cerrado todas las
                      nucleares y centrales de carbón y gas-oil. Se
                      aceptan transitoriamente las de gas de ciclo
                      combinado, como un mal menor en esta transición.</div>
                    <div>El documento es interesante y tiene bastantes
                      datos. Puede servir de argumentario para la
                      asamblea o para la subcomisión, al menos.<br>
                    </div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>Lo que no me ha quedado claro es lo de las dos
                      subcomisiones. el viernes parecía que habría una
                      subcomisión de M.A. dentro de la Com. de
                      contenidos, y otra Comisión de medio ambiente,
                      pero más encargada de acciones, debates y gestión
                      ambiental de la propia acampada. El sábado parecía
                      que todo esto se fundía en una sola Comisión de
                      M.A. con 3 subcomisiones: contenidos, acciones y
                      debate, y gestión de la acampada.</div>
                    <div>Veo que todo esto ha cambiado, pero no entiendo
                      lo de que una subcomisión aporte al programa de
                      mínimos y otra al programa de medio ambiente en
                      general.... ¿Me lo podeis explicar??</div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>Merci!</div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
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                      <div>Jaume<br>
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                            <hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight:
                                bold;">De:</span></b> Marta Conde &lt;<a
                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="mailto:mcondep@gmail.com"
                              target="_blank">mcondep@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
                            <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Para:</span></b>
                            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="mailto:degrowth-reading-group@googlegroups.com"
                              target="_blank">degrowth-reading-group@googlegroups.com</a><br>
                            <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">CC:</span></b>
                            Lista Entesa decreixement &lt;<a
                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="mailto:energiadecreixent@llistes.moviments.net"
                              target="_blank">energiadecreixent@llistes.moviments.net</a>&gt;;

                            Jaume ecologista en accion &lt;<a
                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="mailto:jgraulopez@yahoo.es"
                              target="_blank">jgraulopez@yahoo.es</a>&gt;;

                            Andrea Coop Princesa &lt;<a
                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="mailto:khamui21@hotmail.com"
                              target="_blank">khamui21@hotmail.com</a>&gt;;

                            tanquem las nuclears &lt;<a
                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="mailto:tln-nce@pangea.org"
                              target="_blank">tln-nce@pangea.org</a>&gt;;

                            CEPA Residuos Cat &lt;<a
                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="mailto:cepa@pangea.org"
                              target="_blank">cepa@pangea.org</a>&gt;; <a
                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="mailto:tanquem@marsupi.org"
                              target="_blank">tanquem@marsupi.org</a>;
                            Alvaro Can Masdeu Foro Sob Alim &lt;<a
                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="mailto:alvarop@pangea.org"
                              target="_blank">alvarop@pangea.org</a>&gt;<br>
                            <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Enviado:</span></b>
                            lunes 23 de Mayo de 2011 11:53<br>
                            <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Asunto:</span></b>
                            Re: [energiadecreixent] Comision Medio
                            Ambiente y Manifiesto - Acampada Bcn<br>
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                                <div>Hola, <br>
                                  Yo estuve ayer tb y hablé con dos de
                                  los 20 que levantaron las manos y que
                                  llevó este tema al debate (no me lo
                                  podía creer!)<br>
                                  Su justificación es que:<br>
                                  - las centrales son seguras<br>
                                  - y que con el consumo energético que
                                  tenemos es imposible hacerlo de otro
                                  modo, que sinó se utilizarán las
                                  centrales de carbón o gas que generan
                                  más CO2.<br>
                                  <br>
                                  Gracias Francois, utilizaremos tus
                                  documento para el tema de la
                                  seguridad. <br>
                                  <br>
                                  Necesitamos documentación para
                                  demostrar que:<br>
                                  - tb genera CO2 (comparación con
                                  gas/carbón?)<br>
                                  - tema residuos. Esto de por sí
                                  tendría que ser suficiente pero
                                  tenemos que ser capaces de argumentar
                                  el nucleo de su argumento:<br>
                                  - conversion de centrales nucleares a
                                  generación eléctrica no contaminante.
                                  Tengo entendido que hay suficiente
                                  generación instalada en España para
                                  cerrar las nucleares pero eso
                                  supondría la apertura de centrales de
                                  carbón y gas que ahora no están siendo
                                  utilizadas, al menos a corto plazo.
                                  Entiendo que esto es un punto crítico
                                  para los activistas de cambio
                                  climático. O que estamos proponiendo:
                                  ir cerrando las nucleares a medida que
                                  se construyan parques eólicos?
                                  encarecer la electricidad para
                                  disminuir el consumo?<br>
                                  <br>
                                  Marta<br>
                                  <br>
                                  <br>
                                  <div>2011/5/23 François DIAZ MAURIN <span
                                      dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        rel="nofollow"
                                        href="mailto:francois.diazmaurin@gmail.com"
                                        target="_blank">francois.diazmaurin@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
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                                      1ex;"> Federico y todos,<br>
                                      <br>
                                      Sobre el tema de las centrales
                                      nucleares, aqui estan un articulo
                                      y una presentacion echa el 14 de
                                      April durante la "primavera
                                      anti-nuclear" organisada por el
                                      grupo anti-nuclear de Barcelona.<br>
                                      <br>
                                      El articulo trata de la
                                      imposibilidad de tener plantas
                                      seguras en realidad. Y la
                                      presentacion trata particularmente
                                      de los dos problemas de aqui en
                                      Catalunya (diapositiva 34 y
                                      siguientes) "extension de vida de
                                      las centrales" y "proyecto de
                                      almacén de longo tiempo
                                      (=sementiri)" cuales dos son en
                                      relacion con el problema de los
                                      residuos.<br>
                                      <br>
                                      Espero que estas dos
                                      contribuciones ayudaran en este
                                      debate.<br>
                                      <br>
                                      Muchas gracias a todos por los
                                      esfuerzos en este movimiento! Es
                                      una oportunidad muy importante
                                      para cambiar el imaginario
                                      colectivo! Suerte.<br>
                                      <br>
                                      Un abrazo,<br>
                                      Francois<br>
                                      <br>
                                      <br clear="all">
                                      François Diaz Maurin<br>
                                      Ph.D. Candidate<br>
                                      Research group on Integrated
                                      Assessment<br>
                                      <font size="2">Universitat
                                        Autònoma de Barcelona (Spain)</font><br>
                                      <br>
                                      <font size="1">Institut de Ciència
                                        i Tecnologia Ambientals (ICTA)<br>
                                        Facultat de Ciències, C5b
                                        senars, 1a planta<br>
                                        Universitat Autònoma de
                                        Barcelona (UAB)<br>
                                        08193 Bellaterra (Cerdanyola del
                                        Vallès) – Barcelona<br>
                                        Tel. <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                          rel="nofollow">(+34) 93 586 85
                                          48</a><br>
                                        Fax. <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                          rel="nofollow">(+34) 93 581 33
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                                          <div>2011/5/23 federico
                                            demaria <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
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                                                rel="nofollow"
                                                href="mailto:federicodemaria@hotmail.com"
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                                                El punto con el
                                                asterisco no se ha
                                                aprobado, creo, porque
                                                el 'cierre de la
                                                nucleares' <br>
                                                es problematico. En
                                                realidad solo unas 20
                                                personas han pedido
                                                debate, mientras 5.000
                                                estaban a favor. <br>
                                                Democracia?<br>
                                                Por lo tanto vuelve a
                                                discutirse en la
                                                subcomision del manifest
                                                de minims <br>
                                                de la comision de
                                                contenidos. Reunion hoy
                                                a las 19.00<br>
                                                <br>
                                                De ahora en adelante se
                                                puede trabajar tambien
                                                en la Subcomission de
                                                Medio Ambiente de la
                                                comision de contenidos<br>
                                                para salir con un
                                                manifiesto en los
                                                proximos dias que sea
                                                mas completo. <br>
                                                Se necesita ayuda.
                                                Reunion hoy a las 19.00.
                                                <br>
                                                <br>
                                                Salut, <br>
                                                fed<br>
                                                <br>
                                                <br>
                                                TEXTO<font
                                                  style="font-size:
                                                  12pt;" size="3"><span
                                                    style="font-family:
ArialMT,Arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: x-small;"><b>8. Medio
                                                        ambiente</b></span></span></font><br>
                                                <font style="font-size:
                                                  12pt;" size="3"><span
                                                    style="font-family:
ArialMT,Arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: x-small;">-El sistema
                                                      económico no puede
                                                      estar basado en el
                                                      crecimiento
                                                      indefinido. Esto
                                                      no es sostenible.</span></span></font><br>
                                                <font style="font-size:
                                                  12pt;" size="3"><span
                                                    style="font-family:
ArialMT,Arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: x-small;">- </span></span></font><font
                                                  style="font-size:
                                                  12pt;" size="3"><span
                                                    style="font-family:
ArialMT,Arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: x-small;"><b>(*)</b></span></span></font><font
                                                  style="font-size:
                                                  12pt;" size="3"><span
                                                    style="font-family:
ArialMT,Arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: x-small;"> Queremos
                                                      un sistema
                                                      energético,
                                                      democrático,
                                                      público,
                                                      renovalbe,
                                                      responsable y
                                                      descentralizado.
                                                      Cierre de todas
                                                      las centrales
                                                      nucleares. No a la
                                                      línea de Molt Alta
                                                      Tensió (MAT).</span></span></font><br>
                                                <font style="font-size:
                                                  12pt;" size="3"><span
                                                    style="font-family:
ArialMT,Arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: x-small;">- Soberanía
                                                      alimentaria,
                                                      fomento de la
                                                      agricultura de los
                                                      campesinos, no de
                                                      las
                                                      multinacionales.
                                                      Fomento de la
                                                      agricultura
                                                      agro-ecológica.
                                                      Suspensión de los
                                                      transgéncios en
                                                      base al principio
                                                      de precaución,
                                                      hasta resolver las
                                                      incertidumbres
                                                      sobre los impactos
                                                      en el medio
                                                      ambiente y la
                                                      salud. Por una
                                                      reforma agraria.</span></span></font><br>
                                                <font style="font-size:
                                                  12pt;" size="3"><span
                                                    style="font-family:
ArialMT,Arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: x-small;">- Consumo
                                                      responsable y
                                                      comercio justo.
                                                      Evitar los
                                                      monopolios en la
                                                      distribución
                                                      garantizando el
                                                      acceso de todos
                                                      los productores. </span></span></font><br>
                                                <font style="font-size:
                                                  12pt;" size="3"><span
                                                    style="font-family:
ArialMT,Arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: x-small;">- Con todas
                                                      estas medidas y
                                                      otras, alcanzar
                                                      unos objetivos de
                                                      reducción de
                                                      emisiones de CO2
                                                      que vayan más allá
                                                      del los del
                                                      protocolo de
                                                      Kyoto. Por una
                                                      verdadera justicia
                                                      climática.</span></span></font><br>
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                                                <hr>Date: Mon, 23 May
                                                2011 10:45:05 +0200<br>
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                                                Subject: Re:
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                                                Comision Medio Ambiente
                                                y Manifiesto - Acampada
                                                Bcn<br>
                                                <br>
                                                Hoooola family,<br>
                                                finalment vem aconseguir
                                                això que us enganxo més
                                                avall; dins de lo
                                                heterogeni del grup n'hi
                                                ha per estar prou
                                                satisfets... el punt de
                                                sistema energètic no es
                                                va aprovar a l'assemblea
                                                general per sorpresa,
                                                perquè a la comissió
                                                tothom hi estava molt
                                                d'acord, per això està
                                                amb un esterisc... no sé
                                                quins són els propers
                                                passos per la resolució
                                                dels esteriscs, fede?:<br>
                                                <br>
                                                <span
                                                  style="font-family:
                                                  ArialMT,Arial,sans-serif;"><span
                                                    style="font-size:
                                                    x-small;"><b>8.
                                                      Medio ambiente</b></span></span><br>
                                                <span
                                                  style="font-family:
                                                  ArialMT,Arial,sans-serif;"><span
                                                    style="font-size:
                                                    x-small;">-El
                                                    sistema económico no
                                                    puede estar basado
                                                    en el crecimiento
                                                    indefinido. Esto no
                                                    es sostenible.</span></span><br>
                                                <span
                                                  style="font-family:
                                                  ArialMT,Arial,sans-serif;"><span
                                                    style="font-size:
                                                    x-small;">- </span></span><span
                                                  style="font-family:
                                                  ArialMT,Arial,sans-serif;"><span
                                                    style="font-size:
                                                    x-small;"><b>(*)</b></span></span><span
                                                  style="font-family:
                                                  ArialMT,Arial,sans-serif;"><span
                                                    style="font-size:
                                                    x-small;"> Queremos
                                                    un sistema
                                                    energético,
                                                    democrático,
                                                    público, renovalbe,
                                                    responsable y
                                                    descentralizado.
                                                    Cierre de todas las
                                                    centrales nucleares.
                                                    No a la línea de
                                                    Molt Alta Tensió
                                                    (MAT).</span></span><br>
                                                <span
                                                  style="font-family:
                                                  ArialMT,Arial,sans-serif;"><span
                                                    style="font-size:
                                                    x-small;">-
                                                    Soberanía
                                                    alimentaria, fomento
                                                    de la agricultura de
                                                    los campesinos, no
                                                    de las
                                                    multinacionales.
                                                    Fomento de la
                                                    agricultura
                                                    agro-ecológica.
                                                    Suspensión de los
                                                    transgéncios en base
                                                    al principio de
                                                    precaución, hasta
                                                    resolver las
                                                    incertidumbres sobre
                                                    los impactos en el
                                                    medio ambiente y la
                                                    salud. Por una
                                                    reforma agraria.</span></span><br>
                                                <span
                                                  style="font-family:
                                                  ArialMT,Arial,sans-serif;"><span
                                                    style="font-size:
                                                    x-small;">- Consumo
                                                    responsable y
                                                    comercio justo.
                                                    Evitar los
                                                    monopolios en la
                                                    distribución
                                                    garantizando el
                                                    acceso de todos los
                                                    productores. </span></span><br>
                                                <span
                                                  style="font-family:
                                                  ArialMT,Arial,sans-serif;"><span
                                                    style="font-size:
                                                    x-small;">- Con
                                                    todas estas medidas
                                                    y otras, alcanzar
                                                    unos objetivos de
                                                    reducción de
                                                    emisiones de CO2 que
                                                    vayan más allá del
                                                    los del protocolo de
                                                    Kyoto. Por una
                                                    verdadera justicia
                                                    climática.</span></span><br>
                                                <br>
                                                <br>
                                                En/na ester c ha escrit:
                                                <blockquote>Vale, ok, yo
                                                  voy a ir entonces a la
                                                  de contenidos. <br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  Algunas ideas:<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  -Reducción publicidad
                                                  y consumo (por no
                                                  decir abolición
                                                  publicidad q va a ser
                                                  demasiado radical).
                                                  Modelo de consumo
                                                  actual.<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  - Fomento
                                                  revalorización campo y
                                                  facilidades para el
                                                  acceso a cultivo
                                                  ecológico (acceso a
                                                  tierras -expropiación
                                                  tierras/ocupación
                                                  legal de tierras
                                                  abandonadas; fuera
                                                  transgénicos).<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  - Queremos unas
                                                  ciudades limpias donde
                                                  se pueda respirar.
                                                  REduccion (abolición)
                                                  coches dentro de la
                                                  ciudad, más bicis y
                                                  transporte público.<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  <br>
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                                                      <div>2011/5/21
                                                        federico demaria
                                                        <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
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                                                          href="mailto:federicodemaria@hotmail.com"
target="_blank">federicodemaria@hotmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
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                                                    </div>
                                                    <blockquote
                                                      style="padding-left:
                                                      1ex;">
                                                      <div>
                                                        <div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          Se necesitan
                                                          refuerzos
                                                          'eco-decrescentistas'
                                                          en <br>
                                                          - la nueva
                                                          comisión de
                                                          Medio Ambiente
                                                          (hoy, todo el
                                                          dia); <br>
                                                          - la comisión
                                                          contenidos
                                                          para incluir
                                                          puntos sobre
                                                          Medio Ambiente
                                                          en el
                                                          Manifiesto
                                                          (hoy de 16 a
                                                          18).<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Necesitamos
                                                          una frase (o
                                                          max 2 o 3)
                                                          claves sobre
                                                          el medio
                                                          ambiente para
                                                          la
                                                          declaración.
                                                          Ideas?<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Twitter<br>
                                                          "S'ha acaba de
                                                          crear la
                                                          comissió de
                                                          Medi ambient
                                                          si hi ha un
                                                          especialista
                                                          en aquest camp
                                                          si us plau que
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                                                          "Necessitem
                                                          aigua potable
                                                          companys!!
                                                          Moltes
                                                          gràcies. Ni un
                                                          pas enrere <a
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                                                          href="http://twitter.com/search?q=%23acampadabcn"
target="_blank">#acampadabcn</a>"
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