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    <font size="+1">Sobre el tema Nucleares. Informaciones:<br>
      <br>
      Sobre lo que ha pasado en Fukushima, implicaciones para la salud,
      el medio ambiente e implicaciones para las nucleares de Catalunya
      (también el medio ambiente y la salud). Presentación desde Tanquem
      les Nuclears en català.<br>
      <br>
      En LINUX (openoffice): <a
href="http://www.tanquemlesnuclears.org/materials/presentaciofukushimacat.odp"><b>http://www.tanquemlesnuclears.org/materials/presentaciofukushimacat.odp</b></a><br>
      <br>
      En Windows (office): <b><a
href="http://www.tanquemlesnuclears.org/materials/presentaciofukushimacat.ppt">http://www.tanquemlesnuclears.org/materials/presentaciofukushimacat.ppt</a></b><br>
      <br>
      Fukushima ha desconcertado a todos los bienpensantes que tenian ya
      el escenario del cierre programado y el discurso hecho a la medida
      de los intereses de las empresas eléctricas: ni CC.OO., ni la
      USCOB, ni la UGT, apoyan la manifestación por el cierre de las
      centrales nucleares del domingo 5 de junio en Barcelona.<br>
      <br>
      Sobre lo que supuso Chernóbil, lo que sigue suponiendo y las
      implicaciones.<a
        href="http://www.tanquemlesnuclears.org/nucinternacional/txernobil.htm"><b>
http://www.tanquemlesnuclears.org/nucinternacional/txernobil.htm</b></a> 
      también hay un power point breve en castellano <br>
      <a
        href="http://www.ecologistesenaccio.cat/temes/nuclear/tln/Chernobil.ppt"><b>http://www.ecologistesenaccio.cat/temes/nuclear/tln/Chernobil.ppt</b></a> 
      y en català <a
        href="http://www.ecologistesenaccio.cat/temes/nuclear/tln/Txernobil.ppt"><b>http://www.ecologistesenaccio.cat/temes/nuclear/tln/Txernobil.ppt</b></a><br>
      <br>
      Sobre las vinculaciones entre la industria nuclear civil y el
      complejo militar:<a
        href="http://www.tanquemlesnuclears.org/nucmilitar/nucmili.htm"><b>
          http://www.tanquemlesnuclears.org/nucmilitar/nucmili.htm</b></a><br>
      <br>
      En general, si miráis la página web de Tanquem les Nuclears - Nova
      Cultura de l'Energia ( <b><a
          href="http://www.tanquemlesnuclears.org/">http://www.tanquemlesnuclears.org/</a></b>
      ) hay material de sobras sobre la problemática de la energía, el
      ahorro, la eficiencia, las renovables, la crisis del suministro,
      etc.  Cambiar el mundo es un trabajo duro y hay bastante cosa
      avanzada, no hace falta empezar siempre desde cero. Se pierde
      mucho tiempo que el capitalismo aprovecha para hacer naufragar las
      alternativas.<br>
      <br>
      Lo que me ha resultado más divertido es que haya gente en la
      acampada que diga que las nucleares son seguras a menos de dos
      meses de una catástrofe que está contaminando radiactivamente
      media Asia y, via alimentos, a gran parte del planeta. O no
      quieren enterarse, o cobran del "lobby nuclear"...<br>
      <br>
      En fin. Suerte, y espero que nos veamos en la manifestación.<br>
      <br>
      Miguel Muñiz<br>
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          <div class="gmail_quote">2011/5/23 Jaume Grau <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:jgraulopez@yahoo.es"
                target="_blank">jgraulopez@yahoo.es</a>&gt;</span><br>
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                  <div><span>Buenos días,</span></div>
                  <div><br>
                    <span></span></div>
                  <div>A mi también me sorprende, pero tampoco tenemos
                    que extrañarnos en exceso: hay una parte de la
                    sociedad que cree que las nucleares son la solución
                    al cambio climático. La presión del lobby
                    pronuclear, con apoyo de los medios de comunicación
                    (y personajes tan contradictorios como J. Lovelock),
                    ha empujado en este sentido.</div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div>Sobre el tema seguridad, creo que basta recordar
                    todo lo que ha pasado en Fukishima (y anteriormente
                    en Three Mile Island y Chernóbil), además de los
                    continuos incidentes en las nucleares catalans, por
                    ejemplo. Pero todo esto son palabras, y es más
                    emocional que otra cosa (sensación de seguridad,
                    sensación de inseguridad).</div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div>En cambio, sobre la posibilidad de una sociedad
                    sin nucleares, os adjunto un estudio-propuesta hecho
                    por Ecologistas en Acción que hemos presentado hace
                    muy poco a nivel del Estado, y que próximamente
                    presentaremos en Catalunya traducido.</div>
                  <div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="http://www.ecologistasenaccion.org/IMG/pdf/mix_electrico_2020.pdf"
                      target="_blank">http://www.ecologistasenaccion.org/IMG/pdf/mix_electrico_2020.pdf</a></div>
                  <div>Se trata de la propuesta de generación eléctrica
                    para 2020. Con datos en la mano, y objetivos
                    razonables pero ambiciosos, se propone una
                    transición hacia un modelo 100% renovable, en el que
                    en 2020 se hayan cerrado todas las nucleares y
                    centrales de carbón y gas-oil. Se aceptan
                    transitoriamente las de gas de ciclo combinado, como
                    un mal menor en esta transición.</div>
                  <div>El documento es interesante y tiene bastantes
                    datos. Puede servir de argumentario para la asamblea
                    o para la subcomisión, al menos.<br>
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                  </div>
                  <div>Lo que no me ha quedado claro es lo de las dos
                    subcomisiones. el viernes parecía que habría una
                    subcomisión de M.A. dentro de la Com. de contenidos,
                    y otra Comisión de medio ambiente, pero más
                    encargada de acciones, debates y gestión ambiental
                    de la propia acampada. El sábado parecía que todo
                    esto se fundía en una sola Comisión de M.A. con 3
                    subcomisiones: contenidos, acciones y debate, y
                    gestión de la acampada.</div>
                  <div>Veo que todo esto ha cambiado, pero no entiendo
                    lo de que una subcomisión aporte al programa de
                    mínimos y otra al programa de medio ambiente en
                    general.... ¿Me lo podeis explicar??</div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div>Merci!</div>
                  <div><br>
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                    <div>Jaume<br>
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                          <hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight:
                              bold;">De:</span></b> Marta Conde &lt;<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:mcondep@gmail.com"
                            target="_blank">mcondep@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
                          <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Para:</span></b>
                          <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:degrowth-reading-group@googlegroups.com"
                            target="_blank">degrowth-reading-group@googlegroups.com</a><br>
                          <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">CC:</span></b>
                          Lista Entesa decreixement &lt;<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:energiadecreixent@llistes.moviments.net"
                            target="_blank">energiadecreixent@llistes.moviments.net</a>&gt;;
                          Jaume ecologista en accion &lt;<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:jgraulopez@yahoo.es"
                            target="_blank">jgraulopez@yahoo.es</a>&gt;;
                          Andrea Coop Princesa &lt;<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:khamui21@hotmail.com"
                            target="_blank">khamui21@hotmail.com</a>&gt;;
                          tanquem las nuclears &lt;<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:tln-nce@pangea.org"
                            target="_blank">tln-nce@pangea.org</a>&gt;;
                          CEPA Residuos Cat &lt;<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:cepa@pangea.org"
                            target="_blank">cepa@pangea.org</a>&gt;; <a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:tanquem@marsupi.org"
                            target="_blank">tanquem@marsupi.org</a>;
                          Alvaro Can Masdeu Foro Sob Alim &lt;<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:alvarop@pangea.org"
                            target="_blank">alvarop@pangea.org</a>&gt;<br>
                          <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Enviado:</span></b>
                          lunes 23 de Mayo de 2011 11:53<br>
                          <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Asunto:</span></b>
                          Re: [energiadecreixent] Comision Medio
                          Ambiente y Manifiesto - Acampada Bcn<br>
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                              <div>Hola, <br>
                                Yo estuve ayer tb y hablé con dos de los
                                20 que levantaron las manos y que llevó
                                este tema al debate (no me lo podía
                                creer!)<br>
                                Su justificación es que:<br>
                                - las centrales son seguras<br>
                                - y que con el consumo energético que
                                tenemos es imposible hacerlo de otro
                                modo, que sinó se utilizarán las
                                centrales de carbón o gas que generan
                                más CO2.<br>
                                <br>
                                Gracias Francois, utilizaremos tus
                                documento para el tema de la seguridad.
                                <br>
                                <br>
                                Necesitamos documentación para demostrar
                                que:<br>
                                - tb genera CO2 (comparación con
                                gas/carbón?)<br>
                                - tema residuos. Esto de por sí tendría
                                que ser suficiente pero tenemos que ser
                                capaces de argumentar el nucleo de su
                                argumento:<br>
                                - conversion de centrales nucleares a
                                generación eléctrica no contaminante.
                                Tengo entendido que hay suficiente
                                generación instalada en España para
                                cerrar las nucleares pero eso supondría
                                la apertura de centrales de carbón y gas
                                que ahora no están siendo utilizadas, al
                                menos a corto plazo. Entiendo que esto
                                es un punto crítico para los activistas
                                de cambio climático. O que estamos
                                proponiendo: ir cerrando las nucleares a
                                medida que se construyan parques
                                eólicos? encarecer la electricidad para
                                disminuir el consumo?<br>
                                <br>
                                Marta<br>
                                <br>
                                <br>
                                <div>2011/5/23 François DIAZ MAURIN <span
                                    dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      rel="nofollow"
                                      href="mailto:francois.diazmaurin@gmail.com"
                                      target="_blank">francois.diazmaurin@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
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                                    Federico y todos,<br>
                                    <br>
                                    Sobre el tema de las centrales
                                    nucleares, aqui estan un articulo y
                                    una presentacion echa el 14 de April
                                    durante la "primavera anti-nuclear"
                                    organisada por el grupo anti-nuclear
                                    de Barcelona.<br>
                                    <br>
                                    El articulo trata de la
                                    imposibilidad de tener plantas
                                    seguras en realidad. Y la
                                    presentacion trata particularmente
                                    de los dos problemas de aqui en
                                    Catalunya (diapositiva 34 y
                                    siguientes) "extension de vida de
                                    las centrales" y "proyecto de
                                    almacén de longo tiempo
                                    (=sementiri)" cuales dos son en
                                    relacion con el problema de los
                                    residuos.<br>
                                    <br>
                                    Espero que estas dos contribuciones
                                    ayudaran en este debate.<br>
                                    <br>
                                    Muchas gracias a todos por los
                                    esfuerzos en este movimiento! Es una
                                    oportunidad muy importante para
                                    cambiar el imaginario colectivo!
                                    Suerte.<br>
                                    <br>
                                    Un abrazo,<br>
                                    Francois<br>
                                    <br>
                                    <br clear="all">
                                    François Diaz Maurin<br>
                                    Ph.D. Candidate<br>
                                    Research group on Integrated
                                    Assessment<br>
                                    <font size="2">Universitat Autònoma
                                      de Barcelona (Spain)</font><br>
                                    <br>
                                    <font size="1">Institut de Ciència i
                                      Tecnologia Ambientals (ICTA)<br>
                                      Facultat de Ciències, C5b senars,
                                      1a planta<br>
                                      Universitat Autònoma de Barcelona
                                      (UAB)<br>
                                      08193 Bellaterra (Cerdanyola del
                                      Vallès) – Barcelona<br>
                                      Tel. <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        rel="nofollow">(+34) 93 586 85
                                        48</a><br>
                                      Fax. <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        rel="nofollow">(+34) 93 581 33
                                        31</a><br>
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                                        <div>2011/5/23 federico demaria
                                          <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              rel="nofollow"
                                              href="mailto:federicodemaria@hotmail.com"
                                              target="_blank">federicodemaria@hotmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
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                                              El punto con el asterisco
                                              no se ha aprobado, creo,
                                              porque el 'cierre de la
                                              nucleares' <br>
                                              es problematico. En
                                              realidad solo unas 20
                                              personas han pedido
                                              debate, mientras 5.000
                                              estaban a favor. <br>
                                              Democracia?<br>
                                              Por lo tanto vuelve a
                                              discutirse en la
                                              subcomision del manifest
                                              de minims <br>
                                              de la comision de
                                              contenidos. Reunion hoy a
                                              las 19.00<br>
                                              <br>
                                              De ahora en adelante se
                                              puede trabajar tambien en
                                              la Subcomission de Medio
                                              Ambiente de la comision de
                                              contenidos<br>
                                              para salir con un
                                              manifiesto en los proximos
                                              dias que sea mas completo.
                                              <br>
                                              Se necesita ayuda. Reunion
                                              hoy a las 19.00. <br>
                                              <br>
                                              Salut, <br>
                                              fed<br>
                                              <br>
                                              <br>
                                              TEXTO<font
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                                                      Medio ambiente</b></span></span></font><br>
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                                                  style="font-family:
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                                                    style="font-size:
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                                                    sistema económico no
                                                    puede estar
                                                    basado en el
                                                    crecimiento
                                                    indefinido. Esto no
                                                    es sostenible.</span></span></font><br>
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                                                    x-small;"><b>(*)</b></span></span></font><font
                                                style="font-size: 12pt;"
                                                size="3"><span
                                                  style="font-family:
                                                  ArialMT,Arial,sans-serif;"><span
                                                    style="font-size:
                                                    x-small;"> Queremos
                                                    un sistema
                                                    energético,
                                                    democrático,
                                                    público, renovalbe,
                                                    responsable y
                                                    descentralizado.
                                                    Cierre
                                                    de todas las
                                                    centrales nucleares.
                                                    No a la línea de
                                                    Molt Alta Tensió
                                                    (MAT).</span></span></font><br>
                                              <font style="font-size:
                                                12pt;" size="3"><span
                                                  style="font-family:
                                                  ArialMT,Arial,sans-serif;"><span
                                                    style="font-size:
                                                    x-small;">-
                                                    Soberanía
                                                    alimentaria, fomento
                                                    de la
                                                    agricultura de los
                                                    campesinos, no de
                                                    las multinacionales.
                                                    Fomento de la
                                                    agricultura
                                                    agro-ecológica.
                                                    Suspensión de los
                                                    transgéncios en base
                                                    al
                                                    principio de
                                                    precaución, hasta
                                                    resolver las
                                                    incertidumbres sobre
                                                    los
                                                    impactos en el medio
                                                    ambiente y la salud.
                                                    Por una reforma
                                                    agraria.</span></span></font><br>
                                              <font style="font-size:
                                                12pt;" size="3"><span
                                                  style="font-family:
                                                  ArialMT,Arial,sans-serif;"><span
                                                    style="font-size:
                                                    x-small;">- Consumo
                                                    responsable y
                                                    comercio justo.
                                                    Evitar los
                                                    monopolios en la
                                                    distribución
                                                    garantizando el
                                                    acceso de
                                                    todos los
                                                    productores. </span></span></font><br>
                                              <font style="font-size:
                                                12pt;" size="3"><span
                                                  style="font-family:
                                                  ArialMT,Arial,sans-serif;"><span
                                                    style="font-size:
                                                    x-small;">- Con
                                                    todas estas medidas
                                                    y otras,
                                                    alcanzar unos
                                                    objetivos de
                                                    reducción de
                                                    emisiones de CO2 que
                                                    vayan más
                                                    allá del los del
                                                    protocolo de Kyoto.
                                                    Por una verdadera
                                                    justicia
                                                    climática.</span></span></font><br>
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                                              <hr>Date: Mon, 23 May 2011
                                              10:45:05 +0200<br>
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                                              Subject: Re:
                                              [energiadecreixent]
                                              Comision Medio Ambiente y
                                              Manifiesto - Acampada Bcn<br>
                                              <br>
                                              Hoooola family,<br>
                                              finalment vem aconseguir
                                              això que us enganxo més
                                              avall; dins de lo
                                              heterogeni del grup n'hi
                                              ha per estar prou
                                              satisfets... el punt de
                                              sistema energètic no es va
                                              aprovar a l'assemblea
                                              general per sorpresa,
                                              perquè a la comissió
                                              tothom hi estava molt
                                              d'acord, per això està amb
                                              un esterisc... no sé quins
                                              són els propers passos per
                                              la resolució dels
                                              esteriscs, fede?:<br>
                                              <br>
                                              <span style="font-family:
ArialMT,Arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: x-small;"><b>8. Medio
                                                    ambiente</b></span></span><br>
                                              <span style="font-family:
ArialMT,Arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: x-small;">-El sistema
                                                  económico no puede
                                                  estar
                                                  basado en el
                                                  crecimiento
                                                  indefinido. Esto no es
                                                  sostenible.</span></span><br>
                                              <span style="font-family:
ArialMT,Arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: x-small;">- </span></span><span
                                                style="font-family:
                                                ArialMT,Arial,sans-serif;"><span
                                                  style="font-size:
                                                  x-small;"><b>(*)</b></span></span><span
                                                style="font-family:
                                                ArialMT,Arial,sans-serif;"><span
                                                  style="font-size:
                                                  x-small;"> Queremos un
                                                  sistema energético,
                                                  democrático, público,
                                                  renovalbe, responsable
                                                  y descentralizado.
                                                  Cierre
                                                  de todas las centrales
                                                  nucleares. No a la
                                                  línea de Molt Alta
                                                  Tensió
                                                  (MAT).</span></span><br>
                                              <span style="font-family:
ArialMT,Arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: x-small;">- Soberanía
                                                  alimentaria, fomento
                                                  de la
                                                  agricultura de los
                                                  campesinos, no de las
                                                  multinacionales.
                                                  Fomento de la
                                                  agricultura
                                                  agro-ecológica.
                                                  Suspensión de los
                                                  transgéncios en base
                                                  al
                                                  principio de
                                                  precaución, hasta
                                                  resolver las
                                                  incertidumbres sobre
                                                  los
                                                  impactos en el medio
                                                  ambiente y la salud.
                                                  Por una reforma
                                                  agraria.</span></span><br>
                                              <span style="font-family:
ArialMT,Arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: x-small;">- Consumo
                                                  responsable y comercio
                                                  justo.
                                                  Evitar los monopolios
                                                  en la distribución
                                                  garantizando el acceso
                                                  de
                                                  todos los productores.
                                                </span></span><br>
                                              <span style="font-family:
ArialMT,Arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: x-small;">- Con todas
                                                  estas medidas y otras,
                                                  alcanzar unos
                                                  objetivos de reducción
                                                  de emisiones de CO2
                                                  que vayan más
                                                  allá del los del
                                                  protocolo de Kyoto.
                                                  Por una verdadera
                                                  justicia
                                                  climática.</span></span><br>
                                              <br>
                                              <br>
                                              En/na ester c ha escrit:
                                              <blockquote>Vale, ok, yo
                                                voy a ir entonces a la
                                                de contenidos. <br>
                                                <br>
                                                Algunas ideas:<br>
                                                <br>
                                                -Reducción publicidad y
                                                consumo (por no decir
                                                abolición publicidad q
                                                va
                                                a ser demasiado
                                                radical). Modelo de
                                                consumo actual.<br>
                                                <br>
                                                - Fomento revalorización
                                                campo y facilidades para
                                                el acceso a cultivo
                                                ecológico (acceso a
                                                tierras -expropiación
                                                tierras/ocupación legal
                                                de
                                                tierras abandonadas;
                                                fuera transgénicos).<br>
                                                <br>
                                                - Queremos unas ciudades
                                                limpias donde se pueda
                                                respirar. REduccion
                                                (abolición) coches
                                                dentro de la ciudad, más
                                                bicis y transporte
                                                público.<br>
                                                <br>
                                                <br>
                                                <br>
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                                                    <div>2011/5/21
                                                      federico demaria <span
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target="_blank">federicodemaria@hotmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
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                                                  </div>
                                                  <blockquote
                                                    style="padding-left:
                                                    1ex;">
                                                    <div>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <div><br>
                                                          Se necesitan
                                                          refuerzos
                                                          'eco-decrescentistas'
                                                          en <br>
                                                          - la nueva
                                                          comisión de
                                                          Medio Ambiente
                                                          (hoy, todo el
                                                          dia); <br>
                                                          - la comisión
                                                          contenidos
                                                          para incluir
                                                          puntos sobre
                                                          Medio Ambiente
                                                          en el
                                                          Manifiesto
                                                          (hoy de 16 a
                                                          18).<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Necesitamos
                                                          una frase (o
                                                          max 2 o 3)
                                                          claves sobre
                                                          el medio
                                                          ambiente para
                                                          la
                                                          declaración.
                                                          Ideas?<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Twitter<br>
                                                          "S'ha acaba de
                                                          crear la
                                                          comissió de
                                                          Medi ambient
                                                          si hi ha un
                                                          especialista
                                                          en aquest camp
                                                          si us plau que
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                                                          "Necessitem
                                                          aigua potable
                                                          companys!!
                                                          Moltes
                                                          gràcies. Ni un
                                                          pas enrere <a
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                                                          href="http://twitter.com/search?q=%23acampadabcn"
target="_blank">#acampadabcn</a>"
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