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          <td>FW: IMPORTANT: INICIATIVA DE DEBATE PUBLICO CON
            PERSONALIDADES HONESTAS QUE NOS REPRESENTEN , firmas?</td>
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          <td>Wed, 30 Mar 2011 20:22:01 +0200</td>
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          <td>Dolors Clota Garcia <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:dolorsclota@hotmail.com">&lt;dolorsclota@hotmail.com&gt;</a></td>
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    Bona nit a tothom,<br>
    <br>
    després de sentir l'altre dia l'Arcadi Oliveres al programa
    Singulars del canal 33, penso que val la pena signar perquè aquesta
    gent tinguin la possibilitat també d'informar-nos i de debatre.<br>
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    Salut!<br>
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    Dolors<br>
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                                                          <h2>Iniciativa
                                                          debate público</h2>
                                                          Nuestros
                                                          representantes
                                                          nunca hablan
                                                          con nosotros,
                                                          simplemente
                                                          nos anuncian
                                                          medidas. Ha
                                                          llegado la
                                                          hora de que
                                                          alguien
                                                          verdaderamente
                                                          preparado y
                                                          libre se
                                                          siente en
                                                          público frente
                                                          a ellos sin
                                                          cuestionarios
                                                          pactados.<br>
                                                          Queremos que
                                                          se produzca
                                                          por primera
                                                          vez en
                                                          democracia un
                                                          encuentro
                                                          entre
                                                          intelectuales
                                                          y/o
                                                          trabajadores
                                                          comprometidos
                                                          y dirigentes
                                                          públicos de
                                                          forma
                                                          transparente.
                                                          Para ello os
                                                          pedimos que
                                                          nos remitáis a
                                                          través del
                                                          siguiente
                                                          formulario
                                                          vuestra
                                                          adhesión a
                                                          esta
                                                          propuesta:<br>
                                                          <b>Reclamo un
                                                          debate en la
                                                          televisión
                                                          pública con
                                                          los siguientes
comparecientes:</b><br>
                                                          <b>-Teresa
                                                          Forcades.</b> (Médica,
                                                          teóloga, y
                                                          monja
                                                          benedictina)<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <b>-Santiago
                                                          Alba.</b> (Escritor,
                                                          ensayista y
                                                          filósofo)<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          -<b>Víctor
                                                          Luís Álvarez. </b>(Presidente
                                                          AMHA)<br>
                                                          <b>-Arcadi
                                                          Oliveres. </b>(Economista
                                                          y activista
                                                          por la paz y
                                                          la justicia)<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <b>-Vicenç
                                                          Navarro. </b>(Politólogo
                                                          y economista)<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <b>-Pascual
                                                          Serrano. </b>(Periodista
                                                          y ensayista)<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <b>-Alberto
                                                          Arce. </b>(Periodista
                                                          y autor de
                                                          varios
                                                          documentales
                                                          reconocidos)<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <b>-Carlos
                                                          Fernandez
                                                          Liria. </b>(Filósofo,
                                                          escritor,
                                                          guionista,
                                                          ensayista y
                                                          profesor de
                                                          filosofía)<br>
                                                          <b>-Josep
                                                          Pámies. </b>(Agricultor)<br>
                                                          <b><span
                                                          style="color:
                                                          red;">Moderado
                                                          por Inaki
                                                          Gabilondo.</span></b><br>
                                                          <b>Y con la
                                                          presencia por
                                                          parte de los
                                                          administradores
                                                          públicos de:</b><br>
                                                          <b>-José Luis
                                                          Rodríguez
                                                          Zapatero</b><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <b>-Alfredo
                                                          Pérez
                                                          Rubalcaba</b><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <b>-Elena
                                                          Salgado
                                                          Méndez.</b><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Y para que
                                                          quede
                                                          constancia, es
                                                          recomendable
                                                          también que
                                                          dejéis un
                                                          comentario
                                                          como
                                                          validación
                                                          pública de
                                                          vuestra
                                                          adhesión.<br>
                                                          Necesitamos
                                                          todas las
                                                          firmas
                                                          posibles, pero
                                                          con un mínimo
                                                          de un millón.
                                                          Todo esto será
                                                          remitido al
                                                          Parlamento en
                                                          un fichero
                                                          informático
                                                          haciendo uso
                                                          de los
                                                          instrumentos y
                                                          la facultad
                                                          que los
                                                          artículos 9,
                                                          23, y/o en su
                                                          caso el 87.3
                                                          de la
                                                          Constitución
                                                          nos confieren
                                                          como
                                                          ciudadanos en <i>la
                                                          participación
                                                          en la vida
                                                          política,
                                                          económica,
                                                          cultural y
                                                          social</i>, y
                                                          se remitirá
                                                          asimismo a
                                                          todos los
                                                          medios de
                                                          información
                                                          nacionales.<br>
                                                          Es
                                                          imprescindible
                                                          disponer de
                                                          voces que nos
                                                          representen
                                                          frente a la
                                                          opacidad del
                                                          poder a título
                                                          de información
                                                          pública.
                                                          Pensad que con
                                                          vuestro
                                                          soporte no
                                                          perdéis nada,
                                                          y podéis ganar
                                                          mucho.  <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          CONTAMOS CON
                                                          VOSOTROS.<br>
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                                                          <h2>Como no
                                                          sabían que era
                                                          imposible,
                                                          lo consiguieron</h2>
                                                          <h3
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                                                          justify;">Quizá
                                                          lo que os
                                                          vamos a pedir
                                                          os parezca
                                                          bisoño,
                                                          inocente, o
                                                          poco creíble;
                                                          y es verdad
                                                          que si no nos
                                                          bajamos de
                                                          nuestro
                                                          pedestal para
                                                          creer un poco
                                                          en los demás,
                                                          ciertamente
                                                          así será.</h3>
                                                          <h3
                                                          style="text-align:
                                                          justify;">Pero
                                                          a la gente que
                                                          estamos detrás
                                                          de esta
                                                          iniciativa -y
                                                          que no
                                                          queremos
                                                          figurar en
                                                          ningún caso-
                                                          nos haría
                                                          mucha ilusión
                                                          que se
                                                          sentaran en
                                                          una misma
                                                          mesa, esos
                                                          representantes
                                                          que jamás nos
                                                          han
                                                          representado,
                                                          y personas
                                                          como nosotros
                                                          con muchas
                                                          inquietudes
                                                          por resolver.</h3>
                                                          <h3
                                                          style="text-align:
                                                          justify;">Nos
                                                          gustaría que
                                                          Arcadi
                                                          Oliveres
                                                          pudiera
                                                          preguntar a
                                                          J.L. Rodríguez
                                                          Zapatero por
                                                          qué somos el
                                                          segundo
                                                          exportador
                                                          mundial de
                                                          munición, o
                                                          que Teresa
                                                          Forcades le
                                                          preguntase por
                                                          qué se ha
                                                          incluído la
                                                          vacuna de la
                                                          “gripe A” en
                                                          la vacunación
                                                          de la gripe
                                                          estacional de
                                                          este año, o
                                                          que Josep
                                                          Pámies
                                                          preguntara por
                                                          Monsanto y el
                                                          Codex
                                                          Alimentario, y
                                                          Pascual
                                                          Serrano por el
                                                          poder
                                                          mediático, y…
                                                          que cada cual
                                                          resolviera sus
                                                          inquietudes, y
                                                          al mismo
                                                          tiempo
                                                          millones de
                                                          españoles que
                                                          jamás han oído
                                                          hablar de esos
                                                          temas,
                                                          despertaran de
                                                          su letargo de
desinformación.</h3>
                                                          <h3
                                                          style="text-align:
                                                          justify;">Quizá
                                                          pedimos mucho,
                                                          pero es lo que
                                                          deseamos como
                                                          ciudadanos.</h3>
                                                          <h3
                                                          style="text-align:
                                                          justify;">Y
                                                          sí, es cierto
                                                          que somos
                                                          inocentes;
                                                          tanto como
                                                          para no haber
                                                          seguido los
                                                          pasos
                                                          reglamentarios
                                                          para una
                                                          recogida de
                                                          firmas, pero
                                                          no tanto como
                                                          para saber que
                                                          presentar una
                                                          propuesta a
                                                          votación en el
                                                          Parlamento es
                                                          absurdo, pues
                                                          conocemos el
                                                          resultado. Y
                                                          tampoco para
                                                          creer que unos
                                                          legos en
                                                          materia
                                                          jurídica iban
                                                          a lograr nada,
                                                          por ello
                                                          contamos con
                                                          un experto en
                                                          imposibles,
                                                          que ha
                                                          conseguido
                                                          sentar en el
                                                          banquillo de
                                                          los acusados a
                                                          uno de los
                                                          hombres más
                                                          poderosos de
                                                          este país.</h3>
                                                          <h3
                                                          style="text-align:
                                                          justify;">Pero
                                                          donde quizá
                                                          pecamos de
                                                          púberes, es al
                                                          pensar que
                                                          mucha gente
                                                          que se rasga
                                                          las vestiduras
                                                          hablando de
                                                          solidaridad,
                                                          igualdad y
                                                          unión, nos
                                                          apoyará. Y
                                                          ahora no me
                                                          dirijo al
                                                          ciudadano de a
                                                          pie, sino a
                                                          aquellos que
                                                          quizá se
                                                          sienten
                                                          demasiado
                                                          importantes
                                                          para divulgar
                                                          una iniciativa
                                                          de gente
                                                          común.</h3>
                                                          <h3
                                                          style="text-align:
                                                          justify;">Nosotros
                                                          vamos a poner
                                                          todo de
                                                          nuestra parte,
                                                          y dependiendo
                                                          del número de
                                                          adhesiones
                                                          actuaremos de
                                                          una forma u
                                                          otra, pero eso
                                                          dependerá de
                                                          vosotros, de
                                                          todos.</h3>
                                                          <h3
                                                          style="text-align:
                                                          justify;">Así
                                                          que os pedimos
                                                          que os suméis,
                                                          porque las
                                                          cosas son
                                                          imposibles
                                                          sólo cuando no
                                                          creemos en
                                                          ellas.</h3>
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